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grandpajay | Posted in General Questions on

Hi folks
I  am going to be building a single story house with 8’ exterior walls.  I was wondering if I could use 2×4 walls at 24” centers with 1.5” zip r vertical sheathing. I would use double 2×4’s at each side for better nailing and shear strength of the zip and a single in the middle. I think it would be strong and would use spider or mineral wool. The house would be 30 miles from the coast in central n.c.

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  • grandpajay | | #2

    Hi aedi
    What I would like to do is install the zip r vertically. In framing the studs at 24” centers , every other stud would be doubled at the vertical edge to provide a whole stud to nail into instead of trying to hit just 3/4”of the stud. I have been reading about shear panels and and hold downs in hurricane country and they recommend 4x4 posts every 4’ instead of a single stud. Doubling a 2x4 would be cheaper. I plan on using more of my budget in attic insulation and windows. Setting studs at 24” would give better insulation and use less hurricane brackets. I’m not worried about wavy drywall so much as having a good wall fairly cheap. I’ve looked at Mooney walls and that may be more expensive and time consuming.

  • Burninate | for 1 last update 2020/07/02 || #3

    Outdoor Sheds Planshow to Outdoor Sheds Plans for grandpajay: Nice for 1 last update 2020/07/02 to see somebody independently raise the topic of a nontraditional building element that''s found its way into the IBC and NDS:grandpajay: Nice to see somebody independently raise the topic of a nontraditional building element that''s found its way into the IBC and NDS:

    "" nominal or wider, and nails at all panel edges shall be staggered."" nail spacing is spec''t get resiliently covered. My designs right now use two plywood-sheathed taped walls with the sheathing between them, and the studs offset, to help with both issues.

    My question #3 is: How is the roof attached and vented? With only 8ft on the exterior, how do you fit in attic insulation?

    1. grandpajay | | #4

      Hi bud I ate
      Really appreciate your knowledge. From what I read most shear stress is always on panel edges so stud spacing at 16 or 24 isn’t so important. The zip r is not recommended for uplift so tie downs are still needed. I would probably still diagonally brace corners for peace of mind. I agree, so many nails are missed on edges, especially thick panels like zip. Also some inspectors may fail you for having nails so close together that it splits the stud. Thanks again. Jays

    2. grandpajay | | #5 grandpajay | | #5

      Burninate
      I want to use trusses at 2’ centers placed directly over studs with tie downs. Some trusses would be cambered to a 10’ height for great room and kitchen. I want to insulate over the trusses with loose fill, with soffit and ridge vents. It’s only 1400 square feet and I want to use 2 mini splits for heating and cooling. Your right about the thermal bridge, but the zip r will help. Like I say I’m more interested in ceiling insulation and windows. North Carolina is a warm climate so a super thick wall may not be needed. Sorry about your name spelling on the previous post. Jay. P.s. raised heel trusses will be used.

    3. Jon R Outdoor Sheds Planshow to Outdoor Sheds Plans for | | #6

      One source says: ""

      "" could be a problem. But maybe with some combination of glue, screws and brackets connecting for 1 last update 02 Jul 2020 them, 2 2x4s would be equivalent."" could be a problem. But maybe with some combination of glue, screws and brackets connecting them, 2 2x4s would be equivalent.

  • Tim R | | #7

    Make sure to look at the Code report for the Zip Panels to get all the information for the structural design. See the shearwall aspect ratio & deflection with the zipR foam panels.
    Also this is a base document for the code on residential wood frame construction from https://awc.org/codes-standards/publications/wfcm-2018 it will guide you on how to prescriptively engineer a residential structure. You can view it for free.
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